Hmm. You know, I would like to… I think I could probably do a worthwhile single entry on that. Tell you what; I’ll see if I can come up with something to fit somewhere in between the end of my playthrough journal and the start of my reviews of the Kalos Pokémon. No promises, though.
Tag: QandA
Obviously the more pokemon sells, the more generations/games they will make. What are your thoughts on an appropriate FINAL amount of the creatures? 1000? 2000? It’ll be interesting to see how pokemon will end when it does.
Well, I don’t think they’ll stop making new Pokémon unless and until they run out of money, which at the moment is looking unlikely to happen in the next few years. They do seem to be slowing down, with only 80-odd Pokemon in the Kalos generation (although, against that, Unova was the largest yet, and the only one to exceed Kanto in number of species). I suppose, that being the case, it’s conceivable that they will declare an end to the whole thing two or three generations hence at #1000, which would be a neat place to stop, but something tells me they won’t – new Pokémon are their way of giving the franchise new life every couple of years.
I’m actually really interested to see where Pokémon will be twenty, thirty or forty years from now. It’s only in the last century that it’s become possible for works of fiction to achieve anything like the degree of global cultural penetration that Pokémon has, so there is absolutely no historical precedent for how something like this will develop in the long term. I sincerely regret that I will never see how it’s remembered in a hundred years or so!
EDIT: Winterdhole suggests: “Maybe instead of creating new pokemon, they’d find ways to upgrade old ones? … or well instead of “upgrading”, perhaps find new evolutions to put forward? Or new ways of playing?”
Well, sure, but I think they do that anyway, don’t they? I mean… Mega Evolution. Pokémon Amie and Super Training. I don’t think they view that as a zero-sum thing.
Do you think you’ll review Genesect and the Legend Awakened in the near future and address the controversy of Mewtwo (i.e. it’s a different Mewtwo, meaning there’s now more than one despite common sense, every incarnation of the franchise prior and established continuity spelling out that that should be all but impossible, or at least very unlikely)?
Eh… probably not. I haven’t seen it, and I have so many other things I’m supposed to do in the near future (wrap up my playthrough journal of X, review Origins, write entries on Diantha and probably Iris, discuss the Fairy type, review all the 6th generation Pokémon, not to mention my work in the ‘real’ world…) that I just don’t think I can fit it in. Sorry. 😦
What do you think about the cub one, marowak, kangaskhan theory?
Well, it nicely explains how Cubone and Marowak are able to exist as a species. If all Cubone wear their mothers’ skulls, then we’re looking at a maximum of one child per coupling, which is not sustainable; even if we relax that limitation to allow them to wear their fathers’ skulls, it’s difficult to see how they can maintain their population. They must come from somewhere, and the orphan Kangaskhan argument makes as much sense as anything. It makes a great deal of sense that, for a species which is all about motherhood, losing one’s mother would be an extremely traumatic event, so I kind of like the idea that they have this specific cultural response to it: orphans become outcasts and devote themselves to battle and self-reliance, in contrast to the herd- and family-focused lifestyle of Kangaskhan.
You still need to reconcile their gender ratios, of course – all Kangaskhan are female, while 50% of all Cubone are male. I think it might be stretching it just a bit to suggest that all Kangaskhan who have male children die. Of course, there are species in the real world capable of changing sex in response to unusual stress, so it’s conceivable that about 50% of infant female Kangaskhan react in a similar way to becoming orphans (this may be easier to accept if you buy into my insanity about what Pokémon gender actually means).
Marowak, I think, are the ones who really get it. They understand grief and loss on a level that goes far beyond what most humans ever experience, and they kinda buy into it, in a way; they think that you can only ever become truly strong by overcoming the pain of loss, and that the most important thing to fight for is the memory of your ancestors. As a result, although they can and do have children of their own, they also sometimes adopt orphaned Kangaskhan and raise them to share the same beliefs. This, of course, makes the Lavender Town sequence with the orphaned Cubone and the mother Marowak that much worse, because it’s possible that the Marowak was a ‘mother’ by virtue of adopting a bunch of Cubone whose birth mothers had died too.
No, that’s exactly what I was getting at, and I totally agree that we don’t see Pokemon producing longer words – I was just thrown off when you said they don’t have “enough phonemes” to express everything (and also by the fact that it’s impossible to talk about the number of phonemes a Pokemon has outside the context of a specific language). Unfortunately I’m having trouble remembering names of languages with three consonants, but I can tell you that if they only have three, they have /p t k/ :P
I have spoken to my friends who actually know things about linguistics, unlike me, and they seem to think that there actually is an argument for using ‘phoneme’ in the way I did, on the grounds that all languages have different boundaries for what is and is not a separate phoneme, and in Squirtle’s spoken ‘language,’ if it can be called that, ‘squir’ and ‘tle’ are the smallest possible sounds available (/s/, for instance, doesn’t count as a phoneme for Squirtle because he can’t actually use it except in a specific combination of sounds). But apparently I am on shaky ground there, so I will shut up now.
These kind people seem to think the record low for number of consonants is six, for an obscure Papuan language called Rotokas, and my linguistics major friend is highly sceptical of anything lower (also worth noting is that they have five vowel sounds, which is a lot more than most Pokémon have to work with).
This is a rant question. I read a question involving a video by Proto Mario and the questioner was annoyed. Does it truly matter? You got websites like cracked throwing out pokemon training is crime article or references getting hundred thousand to million to views once in a while. There are people who genuinely believe so and those who don’t may still joke on it. Does it rustle that many people? It shouldn’t stop you from enjoying the series if you disagree. What about you and your readers?
Well, I can’t speak for my readers, but you’re right that it shouldn’t and doesn’t affect my enjoyment of the series. It does impact my ability to take pride in my own work, when such a (frankly) piss-poor argument for a fairly obvious position can be so much more ‘successful,’ by that particular objective metric, than anything I’ve ever written or, in all probability, ever will. The end result is that I have to tell myself that my readers are just worth more than their viewers, because anyone who actually goes to the effort of reading my stuff on a regular basis is clearly getting a lot more out of it.
But let’s be honest – I do sound more than a little pretentious in saying things like that, don’t I?
Thanks for the response! I think what threw me off the most is that you are working with an incorrect definition of phoneme. But In response to your answer, I wanted to warn you that the number of phonemes in a language has no bearing on the concepts you’re able to express; there are languages with only 3 consonants that are capable of expressing complex ideas just like any other lang. I would also be wary of conflating a dearth of phonologically permissible syllables with a “miniscule lexicon.”
I don’t actually think I had a consistent definition of ‘phoneme’ in my head when I wrote that; I’m not a linguist, I just hang out with some. Eheh…
Anyway. Obviously you could produce a wider variety of words with a small number of sounds by just having longer words… but as far as I can tell, Pokémon don’t actually do that; they seem to be pretty concise, by and large. Or is that not what you mean?
Also – I know of languages with as few as ten consonants (Maori, the language spoken by the native people of New Zealand, where I come from, has ten – h, k, m, n, p, r, t, w, wh, and ng), and I could easily see going lower than that, but three? Really? Could you give an example?
Sorry, could you explain a bit more what you mean when you say “they just don’t have enough phonemes for all the concepts they obviously understand”?
Let’s take an example. Squirtle can pronounce two syllables: “squirt” and “tle.” He can vary pitch and inflection to convey questions, exclamations, commands and so forth, but in terms of constructing indicative statements he seems to be limited to those two sounds, which means that he’s basically speaking in binary. What’s more, 90% of what he says is just alternating those two syllables – he tends to say “squirtle squirtle” over and over rather than mixing it up the way Bulbasaur or Pikachu do (which is why I’m talking about Squirtle – when I talk about Pikachu people have an annoying tendency to worm around with the different combinations of syllables he uses, and how he has a unique utterance for Ash – pikapi – as though there could possibly be some way this had escaped my attention). We know from Island of the Giant Pokémon that those two syllables are sufficient for him to express dissatisfaction, contentment, cynicism, humour, mockery, familiarity, uncertainty and disdain… and to comment on the weather. If those two syllables are really all he has to work with, the range of states of mind he manages to convey over the course of that story is linguistically impossible. Clearly there is some other component to the way he’s communicating that we aren’t capable of picking up on, but damned if I know what it is (shifts in pitch and inflection too subtle for a human ear to interpret reliably? Body language? Pheromones? Some combination?). That episode’s useful as a case study for a lot of questions because of the subtitle thing, but it’s hardly the only time we see Pokémon having conversations, and you can usually at least guess what they’re talking about (see, for instance, the scene between Bulbasaur and Pikachu in Bulbasaur’s Mysterious Garden) – they’re far from being dumb animals, and they can express their concerns to each other with, apparently, a fair degree of eloquence, in spite of possessing a minuscule lexicon.
Your latest answer especially by your last sentence. “What kind of relationship would make them happy.” What if they start to pursue your romantically or based on mating urge or such. Some may laugh but in a hypothetical pokemon world I think this would be a serious issue. I say it might be more common one might think.
The biggest issue for me here is that I just don’t believe there’s a whole lot we know for sure about Pokémon reproductive biology. You can see what I have to say about that in this article here – and while I would be the first to admit that a lot of what I say in that piece is a little bit ‘out there,’ I think it does demonstrate fairly well that this is a tricky topic at the best of times (since the time of writing, we’ve also been slapped with the random NPC in Coumarine City who says that Pokémon eggs aren’t eggs at all, which is such a bizarre out-of-context statement that there’s little you can do with it, but could easily be Game Freak saying “yeah, whatever you think you know about this stuff is wrong”). What this all boils down to is that I’m not sure whether Pokémon would be capable of desiring humans in that sense, or even whether they would necessarily have the requisite… er… bits… with which to act on it (even Humanshape species).
Having said that, let’s talk about this anyway for the sake of argument. Inter-species breeding is certainly common among Pokémon, and in the real world humans often get different animals to breed and produce hybrid offspring like mules or ligers. This kind of thing even happens without human instigation from time to time. And then you have that… regrettable incident with the chimpanzee and the frog (a union which is not going to produce offspring no matter how you slice it)… Anyway. I think the main reason we get upset when humans indulge in such activities (aside from the straightforward visceral revulsion – or, to put it in everyday terms, “eww!”) is that it’s just kind of an abusive action at its base level, because the animal probably doesn’t fully understand what’s going on and in many or most cases wouldn’t be able to do anything about it if it did – which on ethical grounds puts us in a similar position to sexual relations with children (again, eww). If the Pokémon is the instigator, which I suppose could happen, then maybe there’s a mitigating factor there, but I don’t think you can get away from the fact that a trainer/Pokémon relationship is not entirely equal; I think most people in the Pokémon world would probably agree that the trainer is in a position of power or authority here. A lot of Pokémon respect and look up to their trainers and habitually seek their approval; that’s really not a healthy starting point. I believe the most appropriate real-world analogy would be a teacher/student relationship – sure, sometimes the student comes onto the teacher, but that doesn’t make it okay! The proper response is to say no, firmly, and get the student transferred to another class (i.e. trade the Pokémon, because as well as you might work together, no good can come of that $#!t). Alternatively, since a lot of Humanshape species are Psychic-types, people might easily suspect a reversal – I think that if such a relationship were ever publicly known, allegations of untoward Hypnosis or similar psychic manipulation would fly fast and thick, possibly ending with the institutionalisation of both trainer and Pokémon.
In sum: I actually don’t believe this would be common, and honestly I’m not certain it could happen at all, but if it did there are still serious ethical issues involved and the best course for the trainer is to avoid such entanglement at all costs because, really, letting something like that happen is not good for either partner, and although it might not have quite the same stigma as bestiality in the real world, I strongly doubt it would be received well (because, again, eww).
What kind of relationship would prefer to have with your pokemon? Do you prefer to be very close and affectionate? Professional working level only? Distant? For example some pokemon may have that need to call the higher up a master. For example Lucario might. Or canine pokemon might even call the trainer “alpha”. Just my own musings.
I suppose the simple answer would be that I’d aim at least initially for a degree of professionalism – trainers always have expectations of their Pokémon, so it’s only reasonable that the Pokémon should be able to expect certain courtesies, services and assistance in return – with the caveat that any professional relationship is smoother if it’s also friendly. I think my answer to this question has a lot that would interest you.
Now, as for what Pokémon “call” their trainers – bearing in mind that we don’t actually understand how they communicate, since they just don’t have enough phonemes for all the concepts they obviously understand, that’s tricky. For a variety of reasons, I don’t believe Pokémon understand or have any use for the concept of personal names, so actually I think all Pokémon likely refer to their trainers as something like “human,” “master,” or “friend” (and yes, I know about the episode with the subtitles, and I know Pikachu has a specific sound for Ash – translation is a bit more complicated than that, even when going between two human languages). You do raise an interesting point, though – different species will have different needs in this relationship and will react differently to trainers – even the anime tends to put this down to variations in individual personality, as do the fans, but differences in the psychology of entire species must be important too. Lucario, I think, are supposed to be solitary by nature – a highly social Pokémon like Mightyena, famed for teamwork, will almost certainly need a great deal more micromanagement in training and more interaction with other Pokémon to maintain a balanced emotional state, while a Lucario might be happy being left to meditate for hours on end. To take an extreme example, Kangaskhan, a Pokémon evolved for a very high degree of investment in her young, might come to view a (comparatively) small and frail human as a family member in need of maternal protection, and consequently be uncomfortable letting her trainer out of her sight for an extended period. And then there are Pokémon that are just plain inscrutable, like Starmie or Sigilyph – even a very skilled trainer might have trouble figuring out what kind of relationship makes them happy.
